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[QUOTE="Josh_Martin:338204"]Joe/NotCommon said:[QUOTE]People go to shows they want to see, thats the inner workings of the scene. There is no secrets to it, I think maybe you are thinking too much about the question so the obvious answer has eluded you. It all comes down to business terms, what is the market you are going for? There is nothing wrong with 21+ or 18+ shows like some people would have you believe. For instance, an obvious example is Jonah's band who only plays all ages shows. Thats easy for them to make that stand, the majority of the older crowd wouldn't like them so by standing for the rights of younger kids to attend shows they rally a fanbase who is more likely to get into them anyway. Another example, Kevorkian's Angels, probably wouldn't get much of a younger fanbase no matter how many basement or hall shows they played. Musically, I think they would (and have) intimidated alot of younger kids. I also think alot of doom bands fall into this same situation and if they were to condemn age restricted shows they would probably just fall off the radar. As far as booking people go, I think alot of pay to play and selling tickets has ceased to exist in this area. That I am happy about because I think it's bullshit. The majority of promoters now book on what they feel. Sure some bands might get left out, but thats the game. Maybe it's elitism, but why on earth would I want to see bands I don't like? I go to so many shows that the second I hear a band who is even just okay, I get bored to death. As far as bands playing and leaving, same deal, why would they want to hear bands they don't like and who aren't going to support them? I mean, seriously, the only reason most of you people want the scene to unite or whatever is so your own band can reap the benefits of such a thing. The scene is united though, all you people are really saying now is that people who don't like your bands should support your bands anyways, because it's better for the scene. Nick, to be honest, I don't recall the last time I saw you at a show that you guys didn't play. Maybe you aren't familiar with the bands or don't like them and thats perfectly fine. But I think starting a thread trying to identify the problems in the scene (and which scene are we talking anyways?), but not really supporting any shows, makes you seem a little arrogant. There could be shows you are attending that I just am not at, but that goes to the which scene are we talking about question. Alot of people from alot of the local bands attend alot of shows, I know because I see them there. Bands who play together and like each other, more often then not seem to support each other even when their own band is not playing. So many people talk about 'supporting the scene' or unifying it or whatever, but to me it already seems to be that way.[/QUOTE] As usual, Joe owned everybody. Everything he said above is 100% accurate. [/QUOTE]
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